{"id":20700,"date":"2014-09-08T16:23:31","date_gmt":"2014-09-08T14:23:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/?p=20700"},"modified":"2025-06-17T19:49:08","modified_gmt":"2025-06-17T17:49:08","slug":"quotation-clxiv-divisiveness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/?p=20700","title":{"rendered":"Divisiveness."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Positive R\u00fcckschl\u00fcsse von Schottland auf S\u00fcdtirol zu ziehen, ist bei hiesigen Unionistinnen eher verp\u00f6nt. Da wird dann die Vergleichbarkeit gern grunds\u00e4tzlich in Frage gestellt. Bei Negativem (oder vermeintlich Negativem) sind die Hemmungen schon wesentlich geringer: In letzter Zeit ist \u00f6fter davon die Rede, dass die Abstimmung zur Zukunft des Landes die schottische Gesellschaft gespalten habe und es nachher schwierig sein werde, die \u00bbGr\u00e4ben\u00ab wieder zu schlie\u00dfen \u2014 und dass dies auch S\u00fcdtirol bl\u00fchen w\u00fcrde, falls man sich auf ein Selbstbestimmungsreferendum einlassen w\u00fcrde.<\/p>\n<p>Auffallend ist, dass beim Referendum in Mals ebenfalls die <em>Gegnerinnen<\/em> (des Pestizidverbots) davon sprechen, dass Bef\u00fcrworter- und Initiatorinnen das Dorf gespalten h\u00e4tten. Doch<em> \u00bbpersonell\u00ab <\/em>sind das meist \u00bbdie Anderen\u00ab \u2014 sprich: jene, die die schottische Spaltung beschw\u00f6ren, w\u00fcrden sie vermutlich in Mals leugnen, und dies allein ist schon ziemlich aufschlussreich.<\/p>\n<p>Wie dem auch sei, die Spaltung wurde auch im BBC-<em>T\u00eate-\u00e0-T\u00eate<\/em> vom 25. August zwischen Alistair Darling <em>(BetterTogether)<\/em> und Alex Salmond <em>(YesScotland)<\/em> diskutiert \u2014 und beide Kontrahenten in Schottland <a title=\"BBC: Divisiveness.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Y2_wKQilX5s&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;t=1h18m28s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sehen es ganz anders<\/a>, als unsere gesch\u00e4tzten Ferndiagnostiker:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Darling:<\/strong> Well, you know, if someone had asked me six months ago \u201chas this campaign been divisive and will it be difficult afterwards?\u201d I\u2019d just said \u201cno, not at all\u2026 it\u2019s like an election, people have their differences and that\u2019s it\u201d. It has got rather more heated in the last few weeks \u2014 in some way that\u2019s not surprising, because both sides are passionate about what they believe in and quite rightly are arguing their case with vigour. I do think though it\u2019s important that, whatever the result, both sides have to accept it, one side is going to be disappointed, yes, but we have to accept it. I hope that people do reject independence, and I hope therefore people will work together to build a better and a stonger, a fairer Scotland. Equally, if I lose and [Alex Salmond] wins I have to accept that\u2026 that\u2019s it, it\u2019s irrevocable, we\u2019re not going back. But I think that isn\u2019t just for politicians, it\u2019s frankly for all of us: after what\u2019s been the longest election campaign, because in some ways it\u2019s that what it is\u2026 the longest one I\u2019ve ever experienced, we\u2019ve got to remember the next morning we need to get on with the things which will make a difference for people in Scotland, we should start looking at the problems we have in our health service, the problems we have in education, in transport, issues for social justice, they all need attending to and they all need we\u2019re working closely together and I hope we\u2019ll do that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Salmond:<\/strong> May I say that I agree with much of what Alistair just said there\u2026 I don\u2019t agree about the campaign. I think this has been the most extraordinary, energizing campaign in scottish history. There are people who\u2019re gonna vote who\u2019ve never thought about voting for political parties. I think we\u2019re heading to a percentage poll of 80% plus, that\u2019s a marvellous engagement in scottish politics, this is a hugely exciting time for Scotland. Where I think Alistair has a good point is in the aftermath, because that\u2019s an obligation to bring Scotland together. Whatever the result, it\u2019s gonna be a course forward, and whatever the result we\u2019ve got to bring Scotland together. So, as First Minister I\u2019m pledging that if it\u2019s a Yes vote, that I\u2019ll accept the obligation to have that 18 months of negotiation between the referendum and independence, not just involving the Scottish National Party or the wider Yes campaign, but all of the best talents of Scotland as part of Scotland\u2019s negotiating team to get the best possible settlement for Scotland in the negotiations. I mean Alistair and I\u2019ve had hard words tonight but if Alistair was available I would be happy to invite him to join that negotiating team, because once the referendum is over it\u2019s a matter of Team Scotland, that\u2019s what we need.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><small><em>Transkription:<\/em><\/small> <img class=\"bbdlogo\" src=\"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/bbdsmileys\/bbde.png\"><\/p>\n<p>Wahrscheinlich h\u00e4tte Darling, der ja \u2014 jedenfalls aus Sicht der unionistischen Nationalistinnen \u2014 die \u00bbAnti-Nationalisten-Rolle\u00ab einnimmt, ein Interesse, der <abbr title=\"Scottish National Party\">SNP<\/abbr> vorzuwerfen, dass sie die schottische Gesellschaft gespalten hat. Obschon das offenbar (\u00fcber ein gesundes demokratisches Ma\u00df hinaus) nicht zutrifft. Doch daf\u00fcr ist die demokratische <em>\u00bbSportlichkeit\u00ab<\/em> in Gro\u00dfbritannien viel zu gro\u00df \u2014 schon fast \u00bberschreckend\u00ab gro\u00df im Vergleich zur Unsportlichkeit und Voreingenommenheit der Gegnerinnen eines demokratischen Entscheids in unserem Land. M\u00f6gen diese sich jedoch k\u00fcnftig an die eigene Nase fassen, anstatt ungerechtfertigterweise die Schottinnen vor ihren Karren zu spannen.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-transform: uppercase;\">C\u00ebla enghe:<\/span><\/strong> <a title=\"YesScotland erstmals in F\u00fchrung.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/?p=20622\"><code>01<\/code><\/a> <a title=\"Status-Quo-Fetischisten.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/?p=20484\"><code>02<\/code><\/a> <a title=\"S\u00fcdtirol ist nicht Schottland.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/?p=8017\"><code>03<\/code><\/a> <span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: normal;\">||<\/span> <a title=\"Alles Spalter.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/?p=34545\"><span style=\"color: #ff8c00\"><code>01<\/code><\/span><\/a> <a title=\"La possibilit\u00e0 dell\u2019autodeterminazione.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/?p=52445\"><span style=\"color: #ff8c00\"><code>02<\/code><\/span><\/a> <a title=\"Desinformation \u2013 und Kontroverse.\" href=\"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/?p=92776\"><span style=\"color: #ff8c00\"><code>03<\/code><\/span><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Positive R\u00fcckschl\u00fcsse von Schottland auf S\u00fcdtirol zu ziehen, ist bei hiesigen Unionistinnen eher verp\u00f6nt. Da wird dann die Vergleichbarkeit gern grunds\u00e4tzlich in Frage gestellt. Bei Negativem (oder vermeintlich Negativem) sind die Hemmungen schon wesentlich geringer: In letzter Zeit ist \u00f6fter davon die Rede, dass die Abstimmung zur Zukunft des Landes die schottische Gesellschaft gespalten habe [&hellip;]<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-20700","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-allgemein","entity-snp","issue-indyref1","issue-quotation","location-schottland","location-united-kingdom","language-deutsch","language-english","medium-bbc","person-alex-salmond","topic-democrazia","topic-medien","topic-politik","topic-selbstbestimmung"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20700","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=20700"}],"version-history":[{"count":24,"href":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20700\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":92868,"href":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20700\/revisions\/92868"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=20700"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=20700"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.brennerbasisdemokratie.eu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=20700"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}